Many Hebrew Israelites waste countless days and hours trying to figure out who Esau is. They read apocryphal books in search of his whereabouts, even arguing and disowning their own brothers and sisters who do not agree with them on the identity of Esau.
When confronted with the scripture in Deuteronomy 23:7
Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land. 8The children that are begotten of them shall enter into the congregation of the LORD in their third generation.
Many will respond by saying "I hate who Yah hates", even though the bible says don't hate them. Still others will say this scripture is speaking of the Syrians as being the brother of Israel to justify their hate against their brother Esau.
There are many other nations of peoples hated by the Hebrews also, but it is a dangerous thing when hating keeps one from obeying the scriptures they claim to live by.
And He said unto them, “Go ye into all the world, and preach the Gospel to every creature.
In Mark 16:15, we see the scripture says to go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. Every creature means EVERY creature. It doesn't say every creature except Esau, or white people, or African people, but ALL people! But many refuse to preach anything other than damnation the the nations they are to preach the Gospel to. If you don't obey the bible, and shut up your mercy to others, rendering yourselves as being fruitless because instead of planting, you were busy plucking up what was planted, Instead of watering, you preached another gospel of destruction and hate, you will be one who bares no fruit, and every tree which does not bare good fruit is hewn down and burnt. Listen, Yah knows those who are his and will send reapers to gather up what's his
24 Another parable put He forth before them, saying, “The Kingdom of Heaven is likened unto a man who sowed good seed in his field;
25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blades had sprung up and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, ‘Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? From whence then hath come the tares?’
28 He said unto them, ‘An enemy hath done this.’ The servants said unto him, ‘Wilt thou then have us go and gather them up?’
29 But he said, ‘Nay, lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Because we often can't tell the difference between the wheat and the tares, we shouldn't decide to damn anyone by preaching damnation and hopelessness to any people. Whether you believe all Israel will be saved, or the grafting in of others who believe, in the end, all those who believe on the messiah will be saved, and it is not our jobs to decide who "All those" are you're simply not qualified to decide. Just know and understand that Yah's word will not return unto him void . He sent his disciple into all the world to preach the gospel (his word). Whoever believe the messiah and endures until the end shall be saved. Again, he knows what he is doing, and he knows those who are his. You better just make sure you are doing what he told you to do!
so shall My word be that goeth forth out of My mouth: It shall not return unto Me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
Many have taken upon themselves to try to figure out when our tribulation which has been going on since 70 AD will end. Most can't even accept or recognize when Israel's tribulation began, let alone when it will end. First we will figure out when said tribulation even began... Israel was made desolate in 70 , and there are certain desolations that were determined on the desolate until the time of the end.
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a FLOOD, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Now I know many will think to argue the tribulation Israel went through ended with the wrapping up of 70 AD when Rome destroyed Israel, but it didn't end there. Notice how even after Israel fled, Satan continued to make war with the remnant of her seed who keep the commandments of God and have the the testimony of the messiah.
During this tribulation, Israel from time to time has been helped by the "earth" which I believe are the peoples of the earth...since the time the Romans were allowed to make Israel desolate, because of Israel's abominations committed against Yah. The earth swallowed up the flood.
33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days. 34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries. 35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the TIME OF THE END: because it is yet for a time appointed.
In 70 AD, many Israelites fled into their place of refuge from the Roman soldiers.
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
What does Consummation mean?
noun: consummation; plural noun: consummations
the action of making a marriage or relationship complete by having sexual intercourse.
"the eager consummation that follows a long and passionate seduction"
the point at which something is complete or finalized.
Obviously the consummation spoken of in the scriptures found in Daniel is not speaking of literal sex, but a completion of covenant, or redeemed purchase.
This will be completed when Messiah returns. Remember when he said, "I go to prepare a place for you, that where I am you will be also? As A husbandman who will be married to New Jerusalem who descends from heaven, also called the bride, those who are his will enter into that holy city and dwell there.
Receipt or proof of consummation/redemption/completed transaction
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
All of that having been said, There have been countless failed prophecies, and mathematical guesses on when the messiah will return. Some have calculated a 400 year prophecy and taught our captivity would end in 2019 based on the notion that Israel didn't spend 400 years in Egyptian bondage. After that prophecy didn't seem to pan out, others continued modifying the prophecy for later dates and more speculations, as if those Israelites living a little over two thousand years ago couldn't do math, or figure out how long their ancestors served in bondage. When messiah said no man knows, he didn't say that because the people were stupid, he said it because it was simply the truth!
Let's see what the scripture says will happen at the end of tribulation and what will be the unmistakable sign of of his coming
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 and they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 and the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 for the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
So there, we see scripture says immediately after the tribulation, the moon will not give it's light, the sun will be darkened, and the stars will fall from the sky, also men will see the son of man coming in the clouds.
Messiah already stated no man knows the day or hour, but only the father who is in heaven. People need to stop assuming they know more than the angels, or even the messiah himself knows. We need to stick to scripture lest you be driven by every wind of doctrine that comes along.
For ZION'S SAKE will I not hold my peace, and for JERUSALEM'S SAKE I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.
2 AND THE GENTILES SHALL SEE THY RIGHTEOUSNESS, and all kings thy glory; and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.
3 Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the Lord, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.
4 Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken, neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate; but thou shalt be called HEPHZIBAH and thy land BEULAH: for the Lord delighteth in thee, AND THY LAND SHALL BE MARRIED.
2 And I, John, saw the holy city, NEW JERUSALEM, coming down from God out of Heaven, PREPARED AS BRIDE adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of Heaven, saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them; and they shall be His people, and God Himself shall be with them and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain; for the former things are passed away.”
This proves God still has ZION in mind and the land New Jerusalem is the bride! The gentile "church" is NOT the bride, but New Jerusalem itself is the bride!
The people of Zion shall be called HEPHZIBAH, meaning-My delight is in thee. and the Land itself shall be called BEULAH-
Meaning. married. Beulah (/ˈbjuːlə/ BEW-lə), a feminine given name, originated from the Hebrew word (בְּעוּלָ֑ה bə'ūlāh), used in the Book of Isaiah as a prophesied attribute of the land of Israel. The King James Bible transliterates the word and translates it as "married" (see Isaiah 62:4).
I recently had a FaceBook conversation about the saying, "Only begotten Son". This is what I posted
"Most of us who believe in the Messiah don't claim to put him in a position above the Father! We do believe he is the only begotten son of The Father!
1 Corinthians 11:3
3. But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of every woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God"
I know the only begotten Son is referring to the Messiah, but of course when dealing with some Hebrews, and others who wrestle the scripture, sometimes to their own misunderstanding and own interpretation, You will be met with many debates. One example is when I was presented by one Hebrew with somewhat of a lite insult and a supposed WHAMMY . He stated
"Lies. Peep Psalms 2:7. So much contradiction in Christianity. It's you all haven't woken up to it by now."
Whenever someone tries to hit me with a "Whammy" , I try not to get in my flesh and give an immediate response, after all this is there "gotcha moment", that moment intended to throw a wrench in everything you are saying, or at the least, derail your whole conversation and train of thought. Many times when you answer them immediately, you will become angry , thus respond out of your flesh, and the whole conversation just becomes about defending your pride and stance on a subject. One more example is when Shawndell Joseph, tried provoking me to a fleshy response saying
"Tiffany Williams , not one time in the New Testament did TMH spoke...a voice ...not thus saith the LORD, but Psalm 2:7 " "I will declare the decree; the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee." So you won't be debating with me but rather, TMH, he said it not me...Happy face."
MY RESPONSE TO THAT "WHOA WHAMMY MOMENT"
"Shawndell Joseph, you are right about one thing, I AM NOT GOING TO DEBATE YOU ABOUT THE MESSIAH! In fact, I don't even recall tagging you into this conversation for a debate. A friend of mine asked me a question and I was answering him. No, i'm not going to debate you because THE DARKNESS COMPREHENDED IT NOT!
The revelation of who MESSIAH is spiritually discerned and can not be understood by the natural mind!
He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: FLESH AND BLOOD HATH NOT REVEALED IT UNTO THEE, BUT MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN."
I didn't hear from Shawndell Joseph anymore, but others kept trying to press me with the "Whammy or gottcha question" of what to make of Psalms 2:7, so I answered them not on their time, not on my time, but at the time that I believe God gave me the understanding.
HERE'S MY FINAL RESPONSE CONCERNING PSALMS 2:7, AND TO THOSE WHO BELIEVE DAVID WAS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON ALSO
Below is what Psalms 2:7 says when using the Tanakn
41. While the Pharisees, were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
42. Saying, what think ye of Christ? whose son is he? The say unto him, The Son of David.
43. He saith unto them, How then doth David IN SPIRIT call him Lord, saying,
44. The LORD said unto my lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies the footstool?
45. If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?
46. And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask any more questions.
Today's so -called Sephardic Jews today are not real Jews. They are transplants from a long time ago.
2 Kings 17:24
And the king of Assyria brought men from Babylon, and from Cuthah, and from Ava, and from Hamath, and from Sepharvaim, and placed them in the cities of Samaria instead of the children of Israel: and they possessed Samaria, and dwelt in the cities thereof.
So when a DNA test is performed on a so-called Ashkenazi Jew comparing their DNA to so- called Sephardic Jews, the result aren't really proving Ashkenazi are of the 12 tribes, but instead are actually proving neither Sephardic, nor Ashkenazi are real Jews. Of course many will claim otherwise.