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6/5/2020

Do Christians Believe They Can Practice Self-defense?

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​I found a video titled "SHOULD A CHRISTIAN FIGHT SOMEONE IN SELF-DEFENSE"  on YouTube. I found it strange how the average Christian in the comment section under the video, believe it's okay to practice self-defense in order to protect themselves and their families, yet the average Evangelical Christian whenever a discussion arises on other social media post about the mistreatment of blacks, don't seem to believe so-called African Americans have a right to defend themselves and their families. first starting with slavery, on down to ongoing climate of hatred and police brutality.

Below is the video and some of the comments copied from the comment section of the video on YouTube.

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benthere4224 years ago
All this debate is about definitions & translations. The commandment is not "Thou shall not kill" but "Thou shall not commit MURDER". Self defense / home defense / protecting your family is NOT murder. If an attacker dies because of HIS decision to steal or kill, the sin is his, NOT the person who resisted the evil. "Turn the other cheek" refers to an insult or minor incident LIKE GETTING A SLAP. Nothing life threatening there, so walk away. But if your life is in peril Jesus instructed us to sell our coat and buy a sword! The matter seems settled to me.
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Bernard Popp3 years ago
way too much ha ha ha and really very shallow touching on this question greatly disappointed...10REPLY
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5winder4 years ago
Turning the other cheek is being forgiving. By all means protect yourself and family... teach them to shoot... war is coming.5REPLY
Ralph Harrison1 year ago
I think turn the other cheek means do not seek revenge6REPLY
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aneyesky4 years ago
hey criminals watching this,"None of my guns are loaded" guy, is a good victim to hit first. Of course I'm kidding. Fellow Christians and non Christians. Develop a plan in your home. Secure your firearms, but be ready. You may as well use your pistol as a club if it isn't loaded. My point being if it IS secure, then keep it in ready fire state! If evil comes to visit upon you and your family,you have an obligation to be ready. It doesn't mean we live in fear. On the contrary. It is a freeing,and empowering feeling to train,and be ready to the best of our abilities! We owe it to others to battle evil when the time comes.I find it annoying that some pastors feel the need to almost apologize like the man did here when he said none of his guns are loaded. If you are a member of his church,I would tell him,(With love and respect) you never have to worry about offending me for having guns in your home. You never have to worry about offending me about being a shepherd who loves his flock this way,if need be use deadly force! I suspect this hesitancy comes from criticisms he's heard from others. News stories,whatever. All of us need to stand with our pastors and support them this way. Stop being Milquetoast fools!
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Oakpear4 years ago
This issue isn't tough at all.  Jesus used hyperbole when he said, "Turn the other cheek."  Jesus also said, "If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out."   So, Christian brother, why are you walking around with your right eye?  Jesus was exaggerating - using an extreme example - to make a general point about not retaliating against people who use you or call you names.  We are to pray for our enemies...and kill them if needed when they threaten the lives of our friends and families, or ourselves. Jesus also told the apostles right before he went to the cross, "Sell your cloak and buy a sword" Does that mean you're obligated to buy a weapon? No. But it does mean that self-defense is Biblical.
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THESEADOG822 years ago
Ever hear of king David.3REPLY
Stephen The13th6 months ago
Don't bring up turn the other cheek if you're not going to bring up the book of Luke when he said sell your garment for two swords. In Psalms it said it There's a time to kill so my understanding is not that he literally wants us to be a punching bag because in Luke he said get two swords. It confused me before but there are times when we have to let stuff go and endure attacks from the enemy and there are times we defend ourselves. If you have a burglar break into your house and you shoot him it's self defense not murder. Thou shalt not kill is based on intent. They shall not randomly kill someone in rage. Peace and blessings and let's get knowledge, wisdom and understanding.
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Earnestly contending for the faith2 months ago (edited)
Sadly the bearded man to his own condemnation loves his wife and family far more then he loves Christ. "He turned around and addressed them as follows: 26 "Anyone who wants to be my follower must love me far more than he does his own father, mother, wife, children, brothers, or sisters—yes, more than his own life—otherwise he cannot be my disciple" Luke 14:25-26 (TLB) "20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, **Do not kill**, Do not steal" Luke 18:20 (KJV) "if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt **do no murder**, Thou shalt not commit adultery...." Matt 19:17-18 (KJV) Christ REBUKED Peter for using a weapon on another human being: "Then the men stepped forward, seized Jesus and arrested him. 51 With that, one of Jesus' companions reached for his sword, drew it out and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his ear. 52 "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword." Matthew 26:50-52 (ANIV)
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randy harrington3 years ago
You better load your guns pastor3REPLY
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Kenneth White5 months ago
WHAT ABOUT... Turning the other cheek?REPLY
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Dr. David M. Berman5 years ago
Well maybe the question should be; should the nice lady be a pastor in the first place but I guess that's another conversation. Having said that which I'm sure will fire up the feminist Christians. let me get to this topic. A person has a right to defend themselves and their family as well as their brethren and other innocent. When the Bible says turn the other cheek it clearly means we are to do our very best not to have to fight to walk away not to be a brawler. But if someone comes at us to hurt us or to hurt our loved ones we have an obligation to defend. If that person is killed it is not us taking their life but rather it's themselves that are responsible for their death.
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George Christiansen1 year ago
The dude humble bragging about his guns being unloaded is a fool. An unloaded gun is not a gun that is useful for defense, which means he isn't defending anyone with a gun.1REPLY
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Wendy A.A.1 week ago
I got into an argumentation w a girl bc before I got saved I sayed that she can't sing and then she started "insulting" me tbh i got anry and used words i shouldn't but i never insultef her I was just defending my opinionREPLY
Regen Ducere2 months ago
The hard question should be; Can this WOMAN be a PASTOR of the church?REPLY
Ben Bryant1 year ago
There is a tremendous amount of history in this question!! During the time of Jesus and the Apostles (when the NT was written approximately), Christians were a small minority group that was often persecuted by the state of Rome. -Almost snuffed out at times over the 200-300 years until Constantine made it legal! -Later, another emperor made it the "official Roman" religion (later in the 4th century?)... -Through the next 1200-1500 years of European history, church and state became inter-twined. -First with vaious Kings/Queens converting and leading (or demanding) their people to conversion, then, more democratic or representative democratic states appeared (maybe Dutch or English being among the first?)... When these rep democratic states appeared, they adopted various laws concerning themselves. Most of the laws they adopted were not new and in fact based on Judeo-Christian, Roman, or Greek laws from the past. These laws had to do with the empowerment of the state to protect itself (i.e., Romans 13 from Apostle Paul). Despite the fact that every one of those governments was or is flawed in some way, they are a meager attempt by Christians and Others to put in place governments that are tolerant of one another's ways and religions. Many younger people today would rather just let the representative constitutional government of the USA "go into the waste bin" of history rather than stand up and fight for its principles based on the value that they bring and have brought in the past to human societies as a whole. -I think this is a wrong attitude. We (present generation of humans) should understand that where we are today as a society is due to the often great price paid for us to be at this point (in terms of blood and treasure). It would be a shame if "next gen" just decides to not fight for their rights as US Citizens and instead takes a "as long as it doesnt affect me" stance on our basic freedoms. In the process of choosing not to fight for those freedoms, the generation that so chooses will be consigning their own generation and possibly many others to a life of slavery, because that is what Christians were subjected to during the 200-300 years during and after the lives of Jesus and the Apostles. So, time has passed and history had proven that there are fundamental human rights that should be and must be preserved even with our lives and at the expense of the lives of others if needed to prevent those rights from being violated. -It is never an easy thing for anyone to kill anyone else. But if the "anyone else" is threatening your life or the lives of others, and you are armed and have the ability to stop them (in a position to take an accurate shot), you would be amiss if you did not do so. -And you would regret your lack of decision to do so later on (maybe by losing your life or the lives of those you love). So based on teachings of scripture and almost 2000 years of development of Judeo-Christian culture in the west, we have rights to personally defend ourselves and to use violence to preserve those rights for ourselves and others if and when it is called for. We should never take lightly the responsibility that comes with the history and granting of those rights!
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sky scan7 months ago
Yes defend yourself and others.REPLY
Nathaniel Howard5 months ago
If Self Defense is sinful, God telling the Iraselretes to protect themselves is a contradict?REPLY
YouthFreedomFighters3 years ago
Turning the other cheek applies specifically to when somebody slaps you, in Matthew it states its specifically when they smite your right cheek. That's what the Bible says.2REPLY
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David Burden5 months ago
I farted on a non Christian it was fineREPLY
j_hxy 2376 months ago
It's alright for a Christian to defend himself, just look at lebanon, Christians have survived wars and persecution by being armed to the teeth, we fought isis, we fought Muslims in the Civil War trying to kick us out, we fought Palestinians that tried to kill us. We have 2 saints that fought the ottomans when they attacked churches. We won every wat they tried to wage on us, and here we are still living in lebanon, nobody till the Civil War tried to mess with Christians. We have heavy weapons under monasteries and churches, plus we have guns at home.
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Travis donnelly5 years ago
I believe that when Jesus said, "Turn the other cheek" we have to put that in the right context. I believe that Jesus was saying here that is someone offends you and attacks you personally, (Not physically) we must not let the temptation of our ego's and retaliation take over. When someone offends us we must let it go and not allow their personal attack on us drive us to sin. What comes to mind here is like when someone back hands you like in the old days when they would challenge you to a duel. A type of prideful challenge one would have to settle a score. I don't see this as someone physically assaulting you, your loved one, or your neighbor. I believe Jesus is telling us to turn the other cheek in humility and not allow their words to affect our spirit. I don't believe that Jesus was talking about never defending ourselves and as Christians being pacifists. We must not take this verse and turn it into a prohibition against self-defense. Even Jesus told the disciples to go buy a sword. Jesus knew that there would be times were we as Christians would have to take up a sword and defend ourselves. The sword (Gun) is not what is in question here and I believe it is more then biblical for Christians to defend themselves and others. What is in question here is the heart. The heart is the catalyst here. If the heart is pure then the defense is justified but if the heart is not pure then the defense is murder. Thank you for discussing this topic. I could go more in-depth with but this is just a brief summery on what I feel the bible says about Christians and guns/self-defense. For Gods glory. Travis Donnelly Full Armor Defense Faith Based Firearms Training "For when all you have is God and a gun" 
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Joseph Kuzara5 years ago
In your video contending for self desfense, thier is a command against actions towards people, Matthew 5:39 states plainly to not resist an evil person which will explain matthew 5 dealing with turning the other cheek and seeing Jesus and his disciples being an doormat while being beating and killed while not repaying the same action for thier visual example harmonizing with his verbal teachings. 1 pet 3:9, rom 12:17. And prov 20:22 says to not pay evil with evil,so obviously evil being done to you is harmful or lethal force in this case but also when talking about killing an burgler in your home in dueteronomy Jesus says to not demand back what is taken-stolen from you luke 6:30, so using force to stop the person from stealing is a demanding action When it comes to luke 22:36, it is true Jesus had no rebuke for us to have a sword or carry one but the application in Matthew 26:50-52 is contrary to His teachings which is why He rebuked peter for trying to protect Him and if it was not ok to lethaly protect God whom we put above all, how much more that we do not protect everything else with lethal or harmful violent force! Self,family,enemy,property and nations residing. He had no intention in using us for His protection because prophecy had to be fulfilled and He plainly stated that if He needed help He would call on 12 legions of angels to deal with the issue. Jesus commanded us to not resist because in John 18:36 He told Pontius Pilate that His Kingdom was no longer of this realm otherwise He would have us protect Him and the Kingdom with force. But also if what peter did was an isolated incident and it was ok to bare arms against people, Jesus would have only rebuked peter for again hindering Him from doing Fathers will as peter did the first time after he confessed Jesus was the Christ. Satan had persuaded Peter to rebuke Jesus for predicting that He must die. But Jesus rebuked peter for applying the sword unjustly because it was not commanded by Jesus period, notice the others asked Jesus if they should draw the sword knowing His teachings but uncertain of what to do knowing they were allowed to carry the swords. while Peter acted rashly with hatred and without permission. Jesus rebuked Peter and ALL those who whould act as Peter did that day in the heart and in action by living by such violence you will die by it, not just physically because many have lived by it but died naturally so He was strongly implying that they will die in thier sins. To live by violence can be in thought and action, sense Jesus studies and judges the heart a person could always be prepared to kill in defense without ever having to apply it and still be guilty of unjust anger being contempt towards life. We cannot perfectly be wrathful and take vengeance as God to still be just. When it comes to john the Baptist not addressing the soldiers, we must see that He was an Old Covenant Prophet and was just making the way for the Lord as Jesus was the fullness of Fathers Teachings and revealer of mysteries. what ever Father wanted Jesus to say He said according to His will, Jesus would be the New Covenant Prophet sense through His death the New Covenant was initiated. It is His teachings we would follow and His example we would imitate. When it comes to romans 13 let us pay attention to context of who the rod of anger is and what they must do to be used by God to punish and judge evil with the sword 1 coronthians 5:12-13. These agents of punishment must take revenge and pour out wrath, both of these attitudes we must put away and was not commanded of us in the OT dueteronomy 32:35;romans 12:19 and in the NT Ephesians 2:3-5,ephesians 4:31,colossians 3:8,galatians 5:20 and james 1:19-20 But i think the focus of non-violence is Romans 12:21 Romans 13:10 If you love your neighbor as yourself and do unto your neighbor as you would want unto you, you will not want to have contempt for life, nor putting ready in your heart to kill and harm but show love,mercy and compassion just as stephen had done before he died by his enemies. Nor Paul who after almost being beating to death never used his Roman privilages to do harm to them nor wielded a weapon in defense, chose out of love to address them again and plea with them for thier salvation. We should have the same attitude as Paul who with Gods sacrifical Love would seek to trade places with his condemned bretheren so they may live instead of putting it in our hearts that they may suffer even though just. There is no physical example of Jesus or His disciples that promote your view on war and defense, with all opportunities to record such "approved" actions if Jesus did advocate it, thier is not one moment any confrontation led to a christian to wield a weapon or use thier fists. The sword can simply be understood to help us hunt and or protect against aggressive animals-think about the areas they would be traveling in by foot or donkey-camel-the wilderness, i have been in situations as a non-violent christian towards people that i had to pick up a rock or draw a pocket knife to defend myself against stray dogs while walking around or doing ministry. The physical sword is for animals amd utility purposes while the spiritual sword is for demolishing strongholds to submit rebellion 2 Corinthians 10:3-5 Let us also look at the example of Matthew 22 where Jesus used the Roman empire as His army to judge israel in the fulfilled prophecy in 70AD, sense the hebrews were our enemy according to the gospel although elect according to the fathers, God would have used Christians amongst the Romans to punish the defiant hebrews in israel, but we were not amongst the ranks. if God allowed romans 13 to be binding also on the church, why do we not see historically christian soldiers attacking israel either through the roman army or through a Godly army? I hope you see my point, God does not teach that we can punish evil with the sword through government agencies because we are commanded to never take revenge and put away wrath
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Zach Foxtrot2 years ago
Go buy a sword. We already have them. Summary of a conversation between Jesus and His disciples. Do you suppose they planned to hunt with them?REPLY
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Steel Talon2 years ago
God will also help those who help themselves... I know it's a personal thing whether to defend yourself or not... All I can tell you is your kung fu, or your baseball bat won't mean a thing when some Thug armed with whatever weapon he or she will choose, decides to break and enter. And If you don't care enough about yourself and family member's to properly protect them from many types of harm what kind of person are you anyway? God bless and good luck being a soft target...REPLY
Minister Kenneth Thomas Espinosa3 months ago
We have a right To protect our family Kung Fu Kick boxing it's OK some christians are crazy because They're not really christians. Live in a bed neighborhood Boyle heights and York city The Bronx then we talk you guys will not survive Protect yourselvesREPLY
Aaron3 months ago (edited)
It's seriously not a hard question. Break into my house and I will do what is necessary to end the threat. God is a God of law. Grace to the humble. There's nothing humble about crimes. That said, I stopped listening to you devils at "...pastor Amy.." because there is no such thing in anything of God as women ruling men (unless it's a curse) and I'd rather die than call you my brethren because you blaspheme God's word. Repent if you are able.REPLY
David Burden5 months ago
join CAP Christians against pubesREPLY
RyMuEntertainment4 years ago
Turning the other cheek is a Christ like disposition of humility... Do you folks think David lacked this ability? No, but there was a job at hand... If it were today, I bet he'd have a .45 . I just don't see how David can protect his animals, Defend the armies of God only to put his tools down if he were to be attacked at home. No,no,no.REPLY
OKandNOWwhat2 years ago
The Commandment is "Love others as I have loved you." (John 13:34, 15:12) Did He shoot you or kill you when you kept on messing up? It is a HIGH calling. If you won't even say you will trust Him in a hypothetical situation, you most certainly will not in an actual situation. Pastors who do not quote Jesus when answering questions are themselves highly questionable. "You are not mindful of the things of God but the things of man." (Matthew 16:23) You have non-hunting firearms, and you say, "I hope they will never be used." Try that line when your wife finds prophylactics in your pants pocket. Immediately, you know it's a lie, and you pretended you believed it because you REFUSED TO TRUST JESUS. A set-apart, peculiar people.
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Sweety3 years ago
My interpretation of the scripture, is not to allow someone to provoke you into a physical fight. Turning the cheek shows incredible courage and that you have the intellect to resolve differences without taking physical action, it also shows a commitment to loving your enemy. Now, should the offender strike you a second time. I believe that you have every right to defend yourself without using lethal force, you could decide to only block and deflect kicks and punches. Without any offensive strike's,  God will see you are in a position to be harmed and yet still don't strike someone who has pitted themselves as your enemy. God could send good hearted people to your Aid and often the fight/altercation will be over. I too like the man in the Video, would hope and have prayed that I would never be tested in such a way. To take a life could very well change the nature of your very soul, But I would risk my life to save loved one's. The action would not be one of malice, nor one made with a hateful heart. I would be sorrowful and even mourn their lose and the lose of my Peaceful innocence.  May God protect those who praise and worship with a true and pure heart, may our enemies always be placed far from our presence.
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Avi Goods3 weeks ago
Thought shall not kill. Tell that to the politicians that claim to be Christian but a start wars over religionREPLY
dosdadio siapa2 years ago
stupid issue! Do you still have to ask or make an issue out of what is obvious? Whether you are a Christian or not, you should defend your self from an intruder who will injure you and your love one. The problem with some Christian is they interpret the bible as it commands you to become a saint or a martyr.REPLY
Michael Alguire7 months ago
There should be nothing wrong with owning guns to protect yourself. I am peaceful however I would not think twice about shooting someone who is trying to kill me or others. It shouldn't be just about protecting your children. Its about protecting people in general . I don't even know why this is a topic of discussion. It's just common sense.REPLY
FearGodMinistries4 weeks ago
If I’m watching someone brutally beating an elderly woman I’m going to intervene because if I didn’t then she would probably die and If I didn’t help the helpless lady than I would be a coward.REPLY
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Darian Kaltenbach4 days ago
More than that, a sin of inaction, you are as guilty as the man accosting the woman. If you watch a blind man walk into a well, you are guilty of murder.REPLY
GummySage4 weeks ago
but the church are the peopel not a building this is one of the essances of christianity many dont know this as a kid we should be raised in the church like we are taught in school we need taught in churches but its not a permanent thingREPLY
Hulkster4 years ago
Just admit it: this is a problem on Christianity.2REPLY
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The Christian Haxor10 months ago (edited)
The thing is. Idk because the bible says not to lean towards your own understanding. but any disagreement that christians have, that have two sides that both use scripture is clearly a misunderstanding on one's part. so that means that you should probably not worry about it. And if you ever get into the debated situation as an Ambassador of Christ, then you might know the answer then. You will understand when god is ready for you to understand.REPLY
Servant8502 years ago (edited)
To ALL, I'm ex LEO and a devout follower of Our Lord Christ. Are you kidding?  There is so much Christ said about these isues. Christ asked just before going to Getsemany. "Do we have any swords" (paraphrased). The Aposteles said "We have two Lord, Jesus said that is enough". Also He said, "The officerdoes not carry the sword for nothing." Also, The day will come when one will sell his coat to buy a sword" (Luke 22:36). "Do not throw your pearls to swine, for they will rip you assunder". My truth and my cheek are pearls! Christ Himself will return to destroy the wicked till the blood rises up to the bridles.(In Revelation). We are not to be whimpy christians according to Christ! If one does not care for his own he is considered a infidel. To turn the other cheek to a beast? No! I will to one who mighy respond to that like a fellow servant.  People read "THE WORD", ALL of IT! Are you people kiding? It is a terible thing to land in the hands of an Angry God! I'm not going to say where in scripyure these writtings are. Find them. They are there, I assure you. Look them up!
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chutdiggadigga3 years ago
I do not trust the theology of a show that endorses women pastors15REPLY
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Joseph Kuzara3 years ago
true4REPLY
Larry Kuehn2 years ago
I don't either.I believe that women should never be religious leaders at all.I believe it's a man's world.4REPLY
JC- Pranks1 year ago
chutdiggadigga first thing I thought4REPLY
Bigs1 year ago (edited)
That way of thinking is idiotic2REPLY
Manual1 year ago
Women are not aloud that I don't think trueREPLY
Nicole Alvarado1 year ago
So what? Women can’t spread the Gospel? Help people come to Jesus?1REPLY
William Ritchie2 years ago
Ok. This is not even a question. A Christian is not only able to but is commanded to defend his life and his family and other innocent people around them.REPLY
ThE BeSt !2 years ago
God's ten commandments are simple #6 thou shall not kill! If your a true believer and god is offering you eternal life it's a simple choice don't kill . America is a death culture and most Americans have forsaken God and replaced him with the false Gods of the founding fathers .2REPLY
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THESEADOG822 years ago
ThE BeSt ! NO!!!REPLY
ThE BeSt !2 years ago
THESEADOG82 Sorry but the founding fathers are more quoted than the word of God today , on issues of death culture in America (Guns). Your feelings and facts are two different things .REPLY
lone wolf0072 years ago
God said not to kill innocents. but god allowed many Jews and prophets to kill intruders for selfdefenceREPLY
first last1 year ago
the founding fathers were not ChristiansREPLY
benthere4224 years ago
All this debate is about definitions & translations. The commandment is not "Thou shall not kill" but "Thou shall not commit MURDER". Self defense / home defense / protecting your family is NOT murder. If an attacker dies because of HIS decision to steal or kill, the sin is his, NOT the person who resisted the evil. "Turn the other cheek" refers to an insult or minor incident LIKE GETTING A SLAP. Nothing life threatening there, so walk away. But if your life is in peril Jesus instructed us to sell our coat and buy a sword! The matter seems settled to me.
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harimau11152 years ago
Any pastor preaching against self defense training is not taking any responsibility and is not for Gods people but against them and against God! Luke 22:36 .... "and if you don't have a sword sell your cloak and buy one"! Any form of Christianity that discourages self defense is preaching Socialist Christianity or Marxist Christianity!!!! Pastors watch out before you are brutally removed from your position by your own flock!!!! Don't mess with the annointing and abuse it!!!!REPLY
Δούλος του Ιησού Χριστού3 years ago (edited)
The faithless using the Bible to justify their actions. God's will be done, rather or not you have a weapon is irrelevant. Saying your going to keep a gun to defend yourself is a total lack of faith and doesn't separate you from the non-believers. Defending can be done without harming or killing a man, and killing a man won't always defend you (legal/mental repercussions,etc.). I say this as a former member of the Georgia Army National Guard in the 1/121 (infantry unit) Headquarters and as someone who has seen what firearms can and will do up close, I hardly see how you can love you enemy whilst doing something so horrible to him. Using the excuse "I wanna defend my family" is silly. God can destroy heaven and Earth, but not keep you and yours save? True Christians are called to do what is seemingly impossible. Old testament verse that nobody seems to remember Daniel 3:23-25. Their FAITH in God saved them, not the sword. So to use Old Testament verses to try and justify self defense, is tantamount to saying all homosexuals should be put to death. Taking verses out of context is twisting the scriptures to your on way of thinking. "But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you. (Luke 6:27-31, NIV) If there were any "buts" or "ands" Jesus would have mentioned them. Give me a reasonable verse in the New Testament that promotes self-defense. The only time I've seen violence used was by Peter who was instantly rebuked by Jesus: "And behold, one of those who were with Jesus stretched out his hand and drew his sword and struck the servant of the high priest and cut off his ear. Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword."
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Blind one3 years ago (edited)
wrong ^^2REPLY
DinkiDidog3 years ago
It's a difficult one. Check out Hacksaw Ridge....2REPLY
Cascadian Applications2 years ago
Δούλος του Ιησού Χριστού And yet what if God is to use you for judgement against someone?REPLY
Zach Foxtrot2 years ago
He rebuked him because he was interrupting that which was necessary and planned by God- His crucifixion. He told His disciples to "go buy a sword" I suppose He meant to keep it in a glass case, report it to the government and only use it for hunting. Read the Bible instead of skimming it.REPLY
THESEADOG822 years ago
Δούλος του Ιησού Χριστού lol your full of itREPLY
lone wolf0072 years ago
so then ur letting ur family members to die in front of u from intruders ok brother u may be dumb I will not do that I'll defend my family whatever it takesREPLY
THESEADOG822 years ago
Δούλος του Ιησού Χριστού Ok , Try to listen blasphemer. Getting smacked in the face is not a serious problem no big deal at all turn other check. Not worth the trouble. BIBLE DOES NOT SAY WHEN A MAN RAPES YOU'RE DAUGHTER, BRING HIM YOUR WIFE TO.. CHRISTIAN people are not A death cult ok not A death cult. Thank you Jesus for giving good people the strength to pull that trigger. According to your interpretation of A king James version bible which sucks .No Christian country or people could ever exists. No but u are a funny FOOL to risk your family's life for a story about 1000years ago .
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THESEADOG822 years ago
ITS trying to tell u to be A good person, but like all drug addicts you seem to have taken a couple of passages way to the extreme. So lol becouse one or two people out of billions got saved by faith everybody needs to confront are enemies on are knees.. Jesus was A libertarian And I am sure he hunted and fished and fought. And if he were alive today he would most certainly have a AR15 on his back.REPLY
THESEADOG822 years ago
Δούλος του Ιησού Χριστού God fought all the time In heaven. Why not just give up and not throw Lucifer out . According to you that was A sin . God cast that guy down on his ass. And if someone breaks into your house you do the same.. You Christian white people need to go to middle East chat with the enemy over their.REPLY
LIVING HOPE1 year ago
THESEADOG82 haha u r funny there are many Christian preacher who went to middle east and saved many souls by God's word.... we are not Muslim's who use self defence as a method of killing people's.... we are strong enough to sacrifice ourselves for Christ sake... there are many Middle Eastern Christians who died for the sake of Christ and they are in heaven right now... Repent man of your sins!!!REPLY
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Jon Brou4 years ago
While no one wants to be attacked and bullied, let alone wanting to see their loved one offended, there comes a time to 'turn the other cheek', and be self sacrificing. Being a martyr for Christ, for instance, is one!REPLY
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Bernard Popp3 years ago
but u dont address the case of non-persecution situations like attacking rapists etc. why?REPLY
Bernard Popp3 years ago
+Bernard Popp rape attacksREPLY
Sweety3 years ago
Revelations 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death._ The fearful or Cowardly. If you think God would just have you stand or bow before your enemies so that they may take everything he has gave you namely your life, you have no idea what a Martyr is. A Martyr died because he stand up and defends the word of the Lord, God. Christian's will not go like sheep to the slaughter, our heart is Lion strong and our words are like the roar of a lion; for we speak the language of the law. Truth!!! I pray and hope the World never needs to call again on the Christians of the World to defend with Sword and blood to protect our rights and laws sent down to us by God. Hitler and Nazism fell to Hell by the might sword of Christianity. Who can stand against God, no one!!
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Cascadian Applications2 years ago
We arent talking martyrdom, were talking Murder. Youre not advancing the kingdom by letting yourself by butchered in your own home.REPLY
THESEADOG822 years ago
Jon Brou It does not say martyr your family dummy . God threw Lucifer out on his ass . Big fight in heaven really A war. God kills evil.. You are A political activist you are not Christian. We are not Jesus And Jesus had big guns behind him u know all the power of the universe. JESUS NEVER GAVE UP POWER JESUS KEEPS ALL OF HIS POWER EVEN BUSTED IN TO HELL. JESUS WOULD HAVE OWNED AN AR15..FOR SURE. JESUS NEVER WANTS YOU TO GIVE UP YOUR POWER AND INDEPENDENCE. JESUS ROSE HE NEVER DIED I WOULD NOT MIND Dying if I could come back in a day I mean what the hell is that. JESUS was the king he wanted you to be A good person but to do what he did would be an insult to him. He knows u can't . And Jesus Protects his friends and family that's why u don't know about them...
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